In the beginning, Wayne Brady created the heavens and the earth. Well, actually, he just described the event captured in Genesis 1:1.

"Before sea or land, before even sky/Which contains all," the "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" actor booms along with the GRAMMY-nominated acting legend Glenn Close at the top of a unique and ambitious new album, quoting Tales From Ovid. "Nature wore only one mask/Since called Chaos." Never thought you'd hear the improv comic famous for "Scenes from a Hat" dramatically plumb The First Book of Moses? Thank Close and GRAMMY-winning big-band leader Ted Nash, who invited him into their latest multidisciplinary project, Transformation.

This isn't a pairing people generally think of. Fans of Close's performances in The Natural or Fatal Attraction may not be aware of the New York multi-reedist and composer's work, or vice versa. But when they get together, it's hand-in-glove. Why? Because, as it turns out, improvising a graceful saxophone solo and inhabiting a character fires up many of the same neurons. (Same with goofing off on "Whose Line," but that's another story.) All these talents—acting, playing jazz, cracking jokes—are more similar than people think.

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That's partly why Close and Nash named their new album Transformation: Personal Stories of Change, Acceptance and Evolution. Featuring everyone from Amy Irving to Wynton Marsalis to Nash's son, Eli, and underpinned by the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra (JLCO), the album, which was recorded in two nights and arrives May, braids jazz with spoken-word segments, many of them derived from literary and poetic sources. And the themes, from spiritual light to the transgender experience, don't get headier—or heavier.

Transformation never gets ponderous or preachy, though. At its essence is the trust and rapport between Close and Nash; even over Zoom from her digs in Montana and his in New York, their mutual admiration radiates from the screen. GRAMMY.com caught up with the prestigious pair to discuss the making of Transformation and Close's personal account of how she got into jazz—which, if you're curious about the genre, is absolutely worth reading.

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This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.​

How did you two arrive in each other's orbits?

Close: I think the first thing I ever did with you guys was a Christmas something. But the truth is, I was walking a street I lived on in the West Village and I heard this jazz music coming out of an open house. The door was open and I walked in and it was Wynton and Ashley Schiff raising money for Jazz at Lincoln Center. So, when was that? When was it founded?

Nash: It's been 30 years.

Close: So, it was 30 years ago because it didn't exist! They were raising music. I mean, raising money.

Nash: It's so interesting because Jazz at Lincoln Center started off as just a tribute to Duke Ellington. They did a series of concerts back in '89, and this woman named Alina Bloomgarden asked Wynton to be part of it. She said, "Hey, would you front the band and talk about Duke?" So, they did this series of concerts and it was so successful they started a whole thing called Jazz at Lincoln Center, which was at Lincoln Center. That's probably when you were there—when they started to raise money for it.

The thing that I remember, Glenn—and I have a couple of memories of our first [meetings]—the first was "Let Freedom Swing," or whatever it was.

Close: Yeah! Yeah, yeah, yeah!

Nash: You and Patricia Clarkson and Morgan Freeman. There were a few celebrity actors and people who came and read really beautiful pieces. We played the music. It was a very emotional experience for me at the time, I remember, just because of some of the thematic material. The idea of freedom. Having parents who were civil-rights activists. I remember we were backstage between the sets during the intermission and Wynton gave me a hug and started crying. It was so deep.

And you were there, and I remember walking up next to you backstage and I was so super-shy. I was like, "Um, hi!"

Close: You were!

Nash: I was starstruck because I just loved your work for years.

Close: I think I read that incredible Lyndon Johnson speech about civil rights. And, of course, the latest collaboration—I was invited by Ted to be on Presidential Suite.

Nash: Right. You read the Aung San Suu Kyi piece. And you had a party at your house up in Maine.

Close: That's true.

Nash: We hung out at your house and we had a jam session where you played bongos or congas or something.

Close: The presumption is breathtaking!

Nash: It was great! It was so much fun. I still have a video of that somewhere.

Glenn Close and Wayne Brady. Photo: Frank Stewart

Close: I always got the feeling from Wynton that if we ever came up with an idea that we wanted to build an evening around, that he was very open to it. We toyed with various things. I remember, for a while, I was thinking of women in war. And then we were in this incredibly traumatizing time in our country and I thought, "No, no, no, no."

We talked about it and we thought the best thing would be to try to articulate what transformation meant. Pre-COVID, it's kind of stunning that we actually did it, because this has all been about transformation—this whole last year. Do we transform to what's happening around us? But that's how it started. We found these pieces.

Nash: Yeah, we came up with the concept. And I agree with you. I think our first idea was very attractive because it was going to be dramatic, and maybe sort of cinematic. I was thinking about all the ways I could write, underscoring. We could invite either readers or actors to do something. I liked that idea, but as we started talking about it, we agreed that we needed to embrace something that would inspire people toward change. You always talk about how we need this—how people need this.

Close: The comfort. So that they walk out of the theater being surprised, which they certainly were. Hopefully inspired.

Nash: And challenged. Glenn curated this so beautifully. She chose pieces that involved prose or poetry or different concepts and created this beautiful art for the evening that embraced all sorts of different themes, from transgender to racial issues to religion. People trying to find themselves in different ways. The creation of the world—going to heaven. It was all in there.

It was a lofty and ambitious program, but the pieces you picked were, I thought, right on. Right on.

Close: You were on fire when you wrote it. I've been doing interviews, and I think people who are part of the trans community are so completely blown away.

Nash: I'm so happy to hear that.

Close: Totally blown away and so moved by what you and [your son] Eli did together.

Nash: For me, that is the most poignant and personal part of the evening. I almost didn't keep it together while I was playing. It was so personal. I remember Danny Gorman, our director—when Eli showed up and we did a soundcheck and Eli began to read some of his letter, Danny couldn't even work. He was so emotional. You were there.

And Eli was so cool. Eli's studying to be a doctor in medical school. And he came in and read that piece—he was not nervous.

Close: He had never performed like that before. That's what I loved about it. You don't know when you pass somebody in the street. You wouldn't know, if you passed Eli in the street, what his story is. Every day, I'm aware. Whenever I see somebody, I say, "What is their story?" To come together again, I think our only hope is to listen to other peoples' stories without judgment. I think that's the basis of what this evening is about.

[astonished] And how about Wayne? I'm embarrassed! I didn't know that Wayne was talking about his mother!

Nash: When I first read the piece, I read it a couple of times because I wanted to make sure that was what I was seeing. Talk about forgiveness. [exhales through pursed lips] You have to forgive yourself before you can forgive everybody else. That's what his piece is about. To forgive yourself for feeling the way you do about yourself, [so] that you can forgive people for giving you a hard time.

We're so quick to judge people. I think one of the beautiful things about getting older, for me, is that I start to realize that what's more important than money or success or fame or any of this kind of stuff—I've never had a tremendous amount of any of it—is connecting with people. And you hope that your art is inspiring. 

As a musician, when we're younger, we're always trying to impress people with our craft, and then we get to a certain point of realizing we want to move somebody emotionally with what we do. These stories—Judith Clark's, Matthew Stevenson's, Brade's, my son's—were so personal, and yet you can imagine, all over the world, that people are judging because they're anti-trans or racist or don't like Jews or whatever.

But look at the example that Matthew Stevenson gave us. Who could have more excuse not to like somebody than in [his] story [of] Derek Black, for being a white supremacist—almost a neo-Nazi, really. What does that teach us? You know?

Close: That we're capable of transforming.

Nash: We are.

Close: We're probably the only animal that can.

Nash: In a short amount of time.

Eli Nash. Photo: Frank Stewart

Where do you both feel this co-billing will go in the future?

Close: We'll do something! We'll have to think of something to do next! It's such a luxury. I used to be totally intimidated by jazz.

Really.

Close: I never listened to it. It's like [how] I was intimidated by poetry in college. There's always some smart kid who knows the meaning, you know? Jazz seemed the same way. It was kind of heady and cerebral. But I tell you, getting to know the Jazz at Lincoln Center guys, I now feel that jazz is probably the truest expression of the human condition. I honestly do.

Nash: I love that.

Close: I actually love it now. I can go into it. I get out of it what I get out of it. But when I think of the dissonance of what it means to be human—sometimes, we come together and play together, and then somebody will go out—it's just so f***ing human. Even the way you guys perform is inspiring because it's so organic. I mean, holy s***! How do you know who's going to come out next? And the way you support each other. If somebody makes a mistake, you wouldn't in a million years know it. It changed my life, in a way. It opened it up as far as what that kind of music is.

Nash: You touched on something about what jazz is, which I think is the same in acting at the high level: trust. You talk about a mistake, and yes, a mistake can be something where we have a written note and we play the wrong one. There are choices you make that might be incorrect or not appropriate for a time, but when we get to a higher level, we feel that thing. We're all listening. We're all trusting. We're responding in a way that feels organic. That's what I love about jazz: It is mostly improvised. And I think a lot of people don't even understand that. 

Close: We only did three performances, unfortunately, but I did notice that the orchestra started responding. Sometimes, just a single musician to a single word. They'd pull it out. I've had people say, "It would be great to do this again." It would be wonderful to do it again because we could get other people—whoever's free, you know?

Nash: I would love to do it again, certainly.

Glenn, you hit on something that is kind of the bane of my existence as a jazz writer. This music is for everybody. You don't need to read a manual. You don't need accreditation. Get into the swing, get into the bluesiness of it, and enjoy it. When that's lost in jazz journalism, it pushes people out, right when we need new blood in this community.

Close: Jazz is so deeply American. I always think of baseball when I think of jazz. And baseball is a sport that's full of names. You don't know how fabulous they are until you actually see them play. I think of jazz in the same way.

The names certainly roll off the tongue with a similar rhythm. "Al Cohn, Illinois Jacquet, Eddie 'Lockjaw' Davis…'"

Nash: A lot of newbies in the jazz listening world will be like, "I walk in a record store…" [scoffs] I'm dating myself. "I don't know what to look at! I don't know where to begin!" That's a question with a lot of people. "Where do I start? Where do I start?"

There are all these go-to records. "Well, start with Kind of Blue." We give a few examples of what some of the parts of jazz music are without being too heady or over-the-top. I think if people just gave it a chance … and one thing Jazz at Lincoln Center is doing a lot is showing people what this music is and allowing them to see it, stream it and all that.

Close: I love what Jon Batiste said when he won his Oscar: "We were given 12 notes."

Ted Nash. Photo: Frank Stewart

Is there anything else you'd like to express about the making of or intention behind Transformation?

Nash: I would. The process of working with Glenn was so revelatory to me. I don't know if you realize this, Glenn, but when I was small-talking with you about your process as an actor—because it's so deep, how you can have all these roles where you transform yourself so beautifully—I said, "What's your method? Are you a method actor? What's your technique?" and all this stuff.

And you just said, "You know? I don't really think about that. I just use my imagination. That's the most important thing." It was a very simple answer, but that was the deepest thing. Because I went home and I started thinking about imagination, and I realized that I do use my imagination when I compose. A lot of times, I'm still stuck in technical things like chords and scales, not just closing my eyes, sitting back and imagining where this piece could go.

Now, I talk about this a lot with students, but this piece, in particular, required a big imagination for me. Using what you said to me and applying that to that composition process, I found voices inside myself I had never found before.

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In this episode of GRAMMY Rewind, watch Batiste take the stage to accept the award for Album Of The Year for his sixth studio album, We Are

Batiste began his praises by acknowledging God: "I just put my head down and work on the craft every day. I love music, he said. "I've been playing since I was a little boy. It's more than entertainment for me — it's a spiritual practice." He also thanked the "many people that went into making this album," including his grandfather, nephew, father, and executive producer, Ryan Lynn.

"This [award] is for real artists, real musicians. Let's just keep going. Be you! That's it. I love you even if I don't know you," Batiste cheered.

Press play on the video above to hear Jon Batiste's complete acceptance speech and check back to GRAMMY.com for more new episodes of GRAMMY Rewind.

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Rowe says she grew up "super dirt poor" and never even had the opportunity to watch the awards ceremony on television. "To be a GRAMMY winner means it is possible for everyone," she declares.

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In the same conversation Heineman aptly described the overall process as reflecting "the symphony of life that we witnessed over the past year."

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Tonight, the red carpet becomes a runway that blends the art of fashion with the magic of cinema and sound. 

The intersection of music and film has never been more luminous than at this year's Oscars, where numerous GRAMMY-winning artists including Billie Eilish, Jon Batiste, and Bradley Cooper are not just attending but are nominated for their contributions to the silver screen. 

From enchanting melodies that tugged at our heartstrings to groundbreaking scores that redefined movie moments, these artists have already left an indelible mark on the music industry. Tonight, they grace the Oscars red carpet, showcasing not only their unparalleled talent but also their unique fashion sensibilities. 

Take a closer look at these multifaceted talents and their journey from the GRAMMYs to the 2024 Oscars.

Billie Eilish

Nominated for: Best Original Song, "What Was I Made For?" from Barbie

Billie Eilish, the alt-pop sensation with nine GRAMMY wins, brings her unique style to the Oscars wearing a tweed schoolgirl look from Chanel. At this year's Academy Awards, Eilish is nominated for the hauntingly beautiful "What Was I Made For?" [From The Motion Picture *Barbie*], the same track that won two GRAMMYs, for Song Of The Year and Best Song Written For Visual Media, at the 2024 GRAMMYs.

*Photo: JC Olivera/Getty Images*

Finneas O'Connell

Nominated for: Best Original Song, "What Was I Made For?" with Billie Eilish

Finneas O'Connell, the mind behind many of sister Billie Eilish’s hits and a 10-time GRAMMY winner in his own right, appears tonight in an ensemble that's as sleek as his production style. Nominated for the poignant "What Was I Made For?," he exudes confidence and creativity, showcasing the depth of his artistic vision.

*Photo: JC Olivera/Getty Images*

Jon Batiste

Nominated for: Best Original Song, "It Never Went Away" from American Symphony

Jon Batiste, a vision of grace on the red carpet in a monochromatic burgundy suit, brings the same passion to his music that won him five GRAMMYs and 19 nominations, including his Album Of The Year win for 2021's We Are. 

Tonight, he's recognized for his soul-stirring "It Never Went Away", a testament to his versatility and depth as an artist. He won his first Oscar in 2021 for Best Original Score with Atticus Ross and Trent Reznor for their work together on Pixar's Soul.

*Photo:* Kevin Mazur/Getty Images

Mark Ronson

**Nominated for: Best Original Song, "I'm Just Ken" [From The Motion Picture Barbie]

Mark Ronson, the GRAMMY-winning producer known for hits like "Uptown Funk" and his work on Amy Winehouse's seminal Back to Black, brings well-suited sophistication to the red carpet. As an eight time GRAMMY winner, Ronson won his first Oscar award for Best Original Song in 2021 for "Shallow" for A Star is Born starring Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper.

***Photo: Kevin Mazur/Getty Images***

Ludwig Göransson

Nominated for: Best Original Score, Oppenheimer

Ludwig Göransson, took home the Oscar for Best Original Score with a win for Oppenheimer. Known for his innovative soundscapes, Göransson's attire tonight — a satin-lapel tuxedo with wide pants and Cartier jewels — is a harmonious blend of classic and contemporary, much like his music.

*Photo: John Shearer/WireImage/Getty Images*

Bradley Cooper

Nominated for: Best Actor, Best Original Screenplay, Maestro

Bradley Cooper, presents a masterclass in red carpet fashion in a double-breasted tie-less tux with turquoise buttons and boot cut suit pants. A two-time GRAMMY winner for A Star Is Born in 2019, Cooper's transformation into Leonard Bernstein in Maestro is both a critical and stylistic triumph. Tonight, his attire is as meticulously curated as his performance, with a nod to the classical elegance befitting one of the most legendary conductors of all-time.

***Photo: Kevin Mazur/Getty Images***

Danielle Brooks

Nominated for: Best Supporting Actress, The Color Purple

Danielle Brooks dazzles in a black corseted gown with silver embellishments, a diamond necklace, and silver toned jewelry that speaks to her vibrant and powerful portrayal of Sofia in The Color Purple. A GRAMMY winner in 2017 for Best Musical Theater Album for her work in the Broadway revival, Brooks now shines on Oscars Sunday in an ensemble that is a tribute to Sofia's strength, resilience, and grace.

*Photo: Mike Coppola/Getty Images*

Diane Warren

Nominated for: Best Original Song, "The Fire Inside" from Flamin' Hot

Diane Warren, whose pen has graced many an iconic ballad, steps onto the red carpet in a "Flamin' Hot" look that echoes her lyrical genius. Nominated once again for her songwriting prowess, Warren's attire tonight is a nod to the fiery Becky G track she's nominated for tonight. 

Warren has received 15 GRAMMY nominations through her career and a win for "Because You Loved Me" (Celine Dion, from Up, Close and Personal) which took home Best Song Written Specifically for a Motion Picture or for Television in 1997. 

*Photo:* Rodin Eckenroth/Getty Images

Ariana Grande

Ariana Grande stepped onto the red carpet just days after the release of her album Eternal Sunshine in a custom Glinda-pink Giambattista Valli gown. Grande presented awards for Best Original Song and Best Original Score with Wicked co-star, Cynthia Erivo at the 2024 Oscars.

*Photo: Rodin Eckenroth/Getty Images* 

Cynthia Erivo

Cynthia Erivo graced the red carpet in an emerald green Louis Vuitton look with voluminous leather ruffles. Erivo presented awards for Best Original Song and Best Original Score with Wicked co-star, Ariana Grande at the 2024 Oscars. 

*Photo: Rodin Eckenroth/Getty Images*

Hailey Steinfeld

Nominated: Best Animated Feature, Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse

Hailey Steinfeld showed up to the 2024 Oscars ready to put on a show. The actress and singer wore a couture Elie Saab gown from the Spring/Summer 2024 collection in light blue with butterfly cape sleeves and a pleated skirt, accentuated by metallic appliqués adorning the bodice and wrists of the sleeves.

*Photo: Jeff Kravitz/FilmMagic/GettyImages *

Tia Carrere

Tia Carrere attends the 2024 Oscars red carpet. Carrere is a two-time GRAMMY winner for Best Hawaiian Music Album.

***Photo: Rodin Eckenroth/Getty Images***

Slash

Slash, the lead guitarist for Guns N' Roses assisted Ryan Gosling and Mark Ronson with a performance of 'I'm Just Ken' at the 2024 Oscars. 

*Photo by Jeff Kravitz/FilmMagic*

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